Subject	Well, I can see why you were able to run a stock ECU
Posted by	AshsZ on January 30, 2004 at 8:19 PM
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In Reply To	am braking traction in 3rd gear on good tires posted by HakenTT on January 30, 2004 at 08:11 PM
Message	with water injection and raise the boost up so much as you did. Its basically like running race fuel. The only financial drawback to doing that is the hassle of buying and installing all the water injection equipment and maintaining a fluid level in the tank.... kinda goes beyond just spending $300 on an ECU upgrade. :) But combining water injection with an ECU upgrade, now there's a treat. Its looking like our 2-program EPROM switch will likely be an option for the kit as you can run more timing as well as more boost and it would be advantageous to run a program that raises the A/F a little and advances timing. = race fuel + tuning power without race fuel. [ ashleypowers.com ] [ agpowers@bellsouth.net ] [ Zemulator Information Sheet ] [ Z1 Motorsports Website ] Enthusiasts soon understand each other. --W. Irving. Are you an enthusiast? If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor. Albert Einstein
Follow Ups	Water Injection: "Just add water"; 1st trial run. - AshsZ 19:17:08 01/30/04 *inteerrreessttiiinnnnnggg* good luck Ash. (n/m) - Red ZX (Sr. N00b) 19:25:51 01/30/04 cool (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 19:35:36 01/30/04 OK. Just got back. Running 25psi of boost, 22 degrees - AshsZ 19:44:14 01/30/04 Confused...what does the cost of windshield washer fluid >> - I am Z-ing Double 19:50:39 01/30/04 Windshield washer fluid is being used as the "water" (n/m) - speedr300z (ATL) 19:56:00 01/30/04 hmmmm...maybe that is what he is using (n/m) - Tennyson (ATL) 19:56:26 01/30/04 I think because he uses windshield washer fluid because - robo (sebring1970) 20:03:50 01/30/04 It will also fight corrosion (n/m) - SeedyROM (ZCON 2K4!) 20:12:24 01/30/04 Good point! With all this brass in the fittings and - AshsZ 20:30:09 01/30/04 Glycol is bad, it behave like sugar and will glue the - northZ 04:09:27 01/31/04 Its been getting down to freezing temps and I dont want - AshsZ 20:08:31 01/30/04 O.K., the freezing/alcohol thing makes sense. >> - I am Z-ing Double 20:33:32 01/30/04 There are no detergents in WW fluid that I am aware of. - AshsZ 20:56:23 01/30/04 the facts; - ni[X]it 22:46:25 01/30/04 really? I'll call this, "every DOGma has it's day" ---> - robo (sebring1970) 06:38:02 01/31/04 Yup, it crystalizes in the liver when metabolized. BAD - AshsZ 07:44:41 01/31/04 the glycol shuts down the kidneys (renal), not the liver - robo (sebring1970) 17:51:28 01/31/04 i've had the displeasure of tasting both. - ni[X]it 10:18:31 01/31/04 most washer fluid doesn't contain any glycol, unless it's - robo (sebring1970) 17:25:31 01/31/04 am braking traction in 3rd gear on good tires - HakenTT 20:11:30 01/30/04 Well, I can see why you were able to run a stock ECU - AshsZ 20:19:07 01/30/04 That's true, with H20 it is necessary to run slightly - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 21:04:51 01/30/04 Good idea. This whole H2O thing is great for those of us - IBPimpn(Ca) 21:19:17 01/30/04 Agreed. I have been running H2O injection for over - Glenn (San Jose) 23:14:13 01/30/04 I need to do that. I can only run 13# @ 14degrees - IBPimpn(Ca) 23:27:27 01/30/04 that's counterproductive (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 20:37:44 01/30/04 3rd (n/m) - RobWR14 20:38:49 01/30/04 wonder what you could do with h20 inj + race fuel (n/m) - RobWR14 20:34:35 01/30/04 what was the outside air temp today? (n/m) - Scotts94z32 20:54:42 01/30/04 That's the amazing part, its like 40 degrees out and - AshsZ 21:51:03 01/30/04 The Buck GN's here run H20 inj. all the time because - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 21:00:44 01/30/04 you'll have torque gains with more water, - ni[X]it 22:20:11 01/30/04 How do you figure that? More water may loose power - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 03:15:05 01/31/04 I think its not all about cooling, the volume of the water - northZ 03:58:21 01/31/04 Here is a link to water injection dyno testing - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 04:11:31 01/31/04 I wonder if someone will jump their ass for using STD - AshsZ 07:49:21 01/31/04 Ah, well in that case I think I will be adding more nozzles. - AshsZ 07:56:25 01/31/04 I am thinking of designing and running a staged - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 10:08:41 01/31/04 I have considered doing that too. But I'm leaning more to - AshsZ 10:49:49 01/31/04 That's true plus you have extra buffer from the - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 11:06:26 01/31/04 subaru guys say >> - MaTT (90TT) 20:45:45 01/30/04 That's awesome man, can't wait to hear the results (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 20:57:53 01/30/04 The other added beneift to H20 injection is that the - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 21:02:14 01/30/04 Thats awesome, so make me a kit already :) (n/m) - ZisLuv 21:19:55 01/30/04
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